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Gypsy In The Palace wrote: ↑December 3, 2018 2:30 pm What I dislike now is that the dates are announced one at a time. I made a decision several years ago that I was going to do whatever it takes to see him once a year. He is getting up there in years, and I know this can’t last much longer. So, I am not going to let a year pass without seeing him while it lasts. Most of the time, I am able to meet that goal without too much trouble. Last year, I ended up making a long road trip because the one show near me was on a Tuesday night right at a time that I had a major deadline at work. And, I am not complaining at all about that. I just had to travel because I had a conflict with the one easily makeable show.

But, now when a date comes out, I find myself wondering if I ought to buy tickets for that show or wait to see if there is another more convenient show. It used to be that every show usually came out at once- usually sometime in February. And, that gave me a chance to look at the whole tour schedule and figure out which one best fits my own schedule and budget. Something apparently changed, and I don’t know if it was JB, LiveNation, or someone else who went to this one at a time strategy. It just makes it hard to plan because I’m left wondering when a date comes out what dates are left to come and if one of them will be a better one.

bralph wrote: ↑December 4, 2018 9:14 am

Gypsy In The Palace wrote: ↑December 3, 2018 2:30 pm What I dislike now is that the dates are announced one at a time. I made a decision several years ago that I was going to do whatever it takes to see him once a year. He is getting up there in years, and I know this can’t last much longer. So, I am not going to let a year pass without seeing him while it lasts. Most of the time, I am able to meet that goal without too much trouble. Last year, I ended up making a long road trip because the one show near me was on a Tuesday night right at a time that I had a major deadline at work. And, I am not complaining at all about that. I just had to travel because I had a conflict with the one easily makeable show.

But, now when a date comes out, I find myself wondering if I ought to buy tickets for that show or wait to see if there is another more convenient show. It used to be that every show usually came out at once- usually sometime in February. And, that gave me a chance to look at the whole tour schedule and figure out which one best fits my own schedule and budget. Something apparently changed, and I don’t know if it was JB, LiveNation, or someone else who went to this one at a time strategy. It just makes it hard to plan because I’m left wondering when a date comes out what dates are left to come and if one of them will be a better one.

I agree 100%. It's pretty easy for me to get to Detroit, Cleveland, Cincy, Indy, Chi, Pit, etc. It used to be that we could review all the dates and pick the one that worked best for our group. Now we have to jump at the first one that goes on sale and works for most, because we have no idea if the other dates will line up (or if he will even go, in the case of Detroit last year). It is incredibly annoying, and I don't see what the advantage could be in doing it that way. There are a lot of other artists that announce their entire tour at once.

bralph wrote: ↑December 4, 2018 9:14 am

Gypsy In The Palace wrote: ↑December 3, 2018 2:30 pm What I dislike now is that the dates are announced one at a time. I made a decision several years ago that I was going to do whatever it takes to see him once a year. He is getting up there in years, and I know this can’t last much longer. So, I am not going to let a year pass without seeing him while it lasts. Most of the time, I am able to meet that goal without too much trouble. Last year, I ended up making a long road trip because the one show near me was on a Tuesday night right at a time that I had a major deadline at work. And, I am not complaining at all about that. I just had to travel because I had a conflict with the one easily makeable show.

But, now when a date comes out, I find myself wondering if I ought to buy tickets for that show or wait to see if there is another more convenient show. It used to be that every show usually came out at once- usually sometime in February. And, that gave me a chance to look at the whole tour schedule and figure out which one best fits my own schedule and budget. Something apparently changed, and I don’t know if it was JB, LiveNation, or someone else who went to this one at a time strategy. It just makes it hard to plan because I’m left wondering when a date comes out what dates are left to come and if one of them will be a better one.

I agree 100%. It's pretty easy for me to get to Detroit, Cleveland, Cincy, Indy, Chi, Pit, etc. It used to be that we could review all the dates and pick the one that worked best for our group. Now we have to jump at the first one that goes on sale and works for most, because we have no idea if the other dates will line up (or if he will even go, in the case of Detroit last year). It is incredibly annoying, and I don't see what the advantage could be in doing it that way. There are a lot of other artists that announce their entire tour at once.

LIPH wrote: ↑December 4, 2018 1:26 pm People have short memories. A few years ago he did announce the entire schedule at once. People made plans, including buying plane tickets, before the concert tickets went on sale. Some shows wound up being cancelled and people were stuck with nonrefundable plane tickets. The hitching and moaning was unbelievable.

LIPH wrote: ↑December 4, 2018 1:26 pm People have short memories. A few years ago he did announce the entire schedule at once. People made plans, including buying plane tickets, before the concert tickets went on sale. Some shows wound up being cancelled and people were stuck with nonrefundable plane tickets. The hitching and moaning was unbelievable.

jbfins wrote: ↑December 5, 2018 1:04 pm I can understand people's gripes, but when was the last time any of his shows sold out? When was the last time you could not get a reasonably priced ticket here through the ticket exchange or on Stub-Hub or through some other platform? Years ago, back when he was popular, you had to wait on an actual line or call Tickmaster to get tickets (using the only phone in the house or at the office). Shows sold out quickly and then you were at the mercy of scalpers. Sometimes, you had to just show up at the concert and walk around holding up your finger to get a ticket.

If he does announce tour dates separately, or by region, maybe that is done to capitalize on your fear of missing out. If all concert dates are dropped at once, people will pick the show they want to attend most and it is possible other venues will have reduced ticket sales. I am sure there are "metrics" and "optics" and all sorts of other crap that is taken into account when the decision to release dates is made.

Please note, I do not think that Jimmy, as capitalistic as he rightfully is, is the person creating or taking advantage of any potential increase in ticket sales through whatever release date strategy is being used. Jimmy is not the only person who makes money off of a tour. Tens of millions of dollars are in play, so it only makes sense for whoever is involved to maximize the money making opportunity.

But clearly there is a strategy. I saw one Bing and Bong show where Jimmy said he is "not allowed" to talk about dates that seemed to already be set. So someone, whether is be Live Nation, a title sponsor, an investor who is owed money from the failed Broadway Show, whoever, calls the shots and is doing so with a purpose in mind. And that purpose is to separate you from your $$$.

BottleofRum wrote: ↑December 6, 2018 4:23 pm For Great Woods in Mansfield, several shows already on-sale for 2019. And 3 Saturday dates are booked: 7/13, 8/3 and 8/17. The 8/17 date being booked by the Train/Goo Goo Dolls concert is notable because recently when he has played at Great Woods it has been that 3rd Saturday in August.

The big PGA golf tournament over Labor Day weekend at the course next to Great Woods which prevented any shows from happening over Labor Day weekend since 2004 is officially done for good. The next time that golf event happens it will be in 2020 and it will be in early August so..... Buffett at Great Woods Labor Day weekend 2019... again!? One can dream.