R.I.P., Philip Seymour Hoffman

[Tiki Torches]

Award-winning Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman Found Dead in Manhattan Apartment
The New York Police Department is investigating, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to determine exact cause of death


Philip Seymour Hoffman, right, in a scene from "The Master." AP

[lime rickie]

Well that's just sad. Loved him in Boogie Nights and he was absolutely perfect in The Talented Mr. Ripley.

Sail on, PSH. ~/)~/)~/)~

[dnw]

Sail on, Phillip.

[ScarletB]

Found in the bathroom with a needle still in his arm. So very sad.

[CaptainP]

I am shocked. One of my all-time favorite actors.

[drunkpirate66]

So Phillip Seymour Hoffman is yet another self entitled, "I don't give an 'f,'" about anyone piece of Hollywood sh*t. Talent, money, friends, love of family, beautiful kids and you just don't care about anyone but your own righteous as$. Pathetic loser. Good riddance.

[Dr.Corona]

So Phillip Seymour Hoffman is yet another self entitled, "I don't give an 'f,'" about anyone piece of Hollywood sh*t. Talent, money, friends, love of family, beautiful kids and you just don't care about anyone but your own righteous as$. Pathetic loser. Good riddance.

Bingo! I lose my wife, a great mother, & someone in the early stages of being a super grandmother to some freak infection/disease that we'll never know how it was actually contracted & I'm supposed to give a rats ass about this guy going for a "high" via the needle.

[surfpirate]

Would his family say these things
to you? Would his family mock another loss of life?
Lose the hatred and just ignore the story. It's easier.

[drunkpirate66]

No. Enough is enough. People who act in such a manner, especially, those who were worshipped by many, need to be held accountable so future generations learn that this type of behavior is not okay. Lose the hate? This guy apparently had no love for anyone but himself. None. No respect. No anything for anyone or anything but sh*tting away his life that 99% of the world yearned for. Screw him. Worst of the worst. Entitlement ends when selfish acts hurt children and family. He and his legacy have lost all merit.

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

Another junkie bites the dust.

[Tiki Torches]

Eye opening read on the pains of addiction and the struggle others face here from one of our own.

Booze, Drugs and Rock and Roll.....

[sistergoldenhair]

Many people struggle every day with addiction. Opiate addiction has a very high rate of relapse. We don't know whether he tried to get clean, or how many times.

I am so sorry for your loss, Dr. Corona. My mom passed on New Year's Eve, just a few weeks ago.

As Neil Young says, every junkie's like a setting sun ...

[Dr.Corona]

Would his family say these things
to you? Would his family mock another loss of life?
Lose the hatred and just ignore the story. It's easier.

You are correct sir. Apologize for the rant.

[CaptainP]

I'll mourn the lost talent, he was truly a great actor.
But if he died doing something stupid, I won't be saddened.

Sail on, Count.
Sail on, Lester Bangs.
Sail on, Scotty J.
Sail on, Brandt.
Sail on, Freddie.
Sail on, Truman Capote.

A lot of memorable roles.
In a way, Jon and the others are right. He deserved to die. But I'll separate and mourn for the roles we'll never see him perform.

[drunkpirate66]

I'll mourn the lost talent, he was truly a great actor.
But if he died doing something stupid, I won't be saddened.

Sail on, Count.
Sail on, Lester Bangs.
Sail on, Scotty J.
Sail on, Brandt.
Sail on, Freddie.
Sail on, Truman Capote.

A lot of memorable roles.
In a way, Jon and the others are right. He deserved to die. But I'll separate and mourn for the roles we'll never see him perform.

Not sure if I think he or anyone else "deserves" to die. Society, however, needs bring back a much larger level of accountability towards people who make a selfish decision that hurts if not cripples those around him. He was a father who didn't think of his children. He was man who didn't act like one. He acted like a child. A selfish, spoiled, entitled child. He, as a grown man, made a decision. His decision. He owns it. This was not some inner city victim from Camden, NJ who had junkie parents born into poverty who never received an education and suffered various forms of emotional trauma who knew nothing better of the world but violence and never received a fair shot at life from day one. This was a grown man. Talented. Educated. He had the means to make more informed decisions and he chose - CHOSE - to act like a selfish piece of sh*t. As long as society continues to present as supportive to these losers than we are responsible for creating a culture where not being held accountable is considered appropriate. It is not. Phillip Seymour Hoffman is exactly what is wrong with society and family dynamics in the United States. He is nothing more than trash. I will find my heroes elsewhere and feel saddened for his family who had the unfortunate bad luck to have spineless selfish junkie in it instead of a grown man who could have offered guidance and love but chose to get high.

[CaptainP]

Not sure if I think he or anyone else "deserves" to die.

Fair enough. But he deserved to have bad things happen.

Society, however, needs bring back a much larger level of accountability towards people who make a selfish decision that hurts if not cripples those around him.

Can't argue with this. I was outspoken when Paul Walker died and I criticized all of the girls who were weeping (yes, literally, I know a girl who didn't leave her house for 3 days because of it) because a handsome actor died. Paul Walked did something stupid and it cost him his life. Same with Hoffman. We put WAY too much stock in our screen idols and sports idols. TMZ and media outlets like that just make it worse.

I will find my heroes elsewhere and feel saddened for his family who had the unfortunate bad luck to have spineless selfish junkie in it instead of a grown man who could have offered guidance and love but chose to get high.

You do that. My point was that I don't consider him (or any other actor) one of my heroes. They're just people who have a job that keeps them in the public eye. So we comment when they die. If this was just an overdose and he went into rehab...it'd be appropriate to dig into him. But not now.




Out of respect for his family (not for him), venomous word should be kept internal. I'm sure his kids aren't on BN. But what Bob said is right. They have enough to deal with without dealing with internet hatemongering. They'll have to hear it for the rest of their lives. Remember, you said that you will find your heroes elsewhere. But for his kids, he was their hero....he was their idol. And now he's a fallen idol. They'll have to deal with that forever. So be respectful for their sake.

I absolutely agree. Waste of talent. Waste of a life.
But I am remembering him for the roles he played on-screen. I can separate the two.

[pbans]

Eye opening read on the pains of addiction and the struggle others face here from one of our own.

Booze, Drugs and Rock and Roll.....

Thank you.
I am an addict.
There, but for the grace of God, go I.

[buffettbride]

I find it incredibly ironic that what brings us together on BN is devotion to a musician who is largely famous for his song "Margaritaville," which boasts "wasting away again" with the "frozen concoction that helps him hang on."

[buffettbride]

Eye opening read on the pains of addiction and the struggle others face here from one of our own.

Booze, Drugs and Rock and Roll.....

Thank you.
I am an addict.
There, but for the grace of God, go I.

And also, I didn't realize you had made a thread about your recovery, but way to go. You're like, my favoritist ever.

[pbans]

I don't know Mr. Hoffman's story, I only know mine.
When I read threads like this, it's like a gut punch.
When I read that Hoffman "deserved to die" because he was an addict, I hear...

"Paige is worth less because she is an addict."
"Paige deserves to die because she is an addict."
"Paige is an entitled piece of sh!t because she became an addict."

No one 'chooses' this hell. No one takes their first pill or first hit or their first drink hoping that their life will someday circle the drain ebbing closer and closer to death. You take your first pill, hit, or drink for so many reasons. To fit in, to stand out....to stop the physical or mental pain....and eventually you take the pill, hit or drink to feel normal. You will die with it and you will die without it. That choice is not always clear.

I have read that Mr. Hoffman had 23 years sober before his relapse. That breaks my heart.
It reminds me that I have to remain ever vigilant against this disease.
I don't know his particular circumstance, but I do know his disease.
I do know that if it were as easy as "making a choice" no one would become an addict or an alcoholic.
If it were sheer willpower, we would like all get sober and stay sober.

I pray for the alcoholic and addict that still suffers every single day.