Wow.

Here you can discuss any Buffett related topic.

Moderators: SMLCHNG, Saltx3

PeretHed66
Havana Daydreamin'
Posts: 815
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: One Particular Harbour
Number of Concerts: 20
Favorite Boat Drink: Pacifico
Location: FLA

Wow.

Post by PeretHed66 »

If this comes to pass, not only has the shark been jumped, it has been landed on, pummeled, and its bloody carcass laid bare for all leap over. Weak sauce indeed.

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog ... =e_article
More Doyle!

lime rickie
God's Own Drunk
Posts: 22741
Joined: December 18, 2008 12:19 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: Bama Breeze
Number of Concerts: 11
Favorite Boat Drink: lime rickey

Re: Wow.

Post by lime rickie »

Why? It makes perfect sense to trademark the name and to expand his enterprise, especially given the recent and forthcoming changes in state laws for both medical and recreational use. There is certainly some subset of his fanbase that would appreciate it.
You only have two options - havin' fun or freakin' out...

Image

jbfinscj
Lester Polyester
Posts: 7641
Joined: January 12, 2004 2:46 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: Floridays, Tin Cup Chalice, Prince of Tides, Tides, Earles Dead
Number of Concerts: 7
Favorite Boat Drink: Coconut Rum
Location: Pennsylvania
Contact:

Re: Wow.

Post by jbfinscj »

Hey Buffettnews was quoted!
I'm back to livin' Floridays
Blue skies and ultra-violet rays

Image

LIPH
Last Man Standing
Posts: 64569
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: my next beer, as long as it's not Blandshark

Re: Wow.

Post by LIPH »

So all the other s*** he's slapped the Margaritaville brand on over the years was OK and this is the straw that broke the camel's back? [smilie=noeyedear-shrugging.gif]
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here

surfpirate
Here We Are
Posts: 9701
Joined: April 27, 2001 8:00 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: African Friend
Number of Concerts: 98
Location: OBX (Oh how I wish ..... maybe next month)
Contact:

Re: Wow.

Post by surfpirate »

If Margaritaville doesn't file this type of trademark protection for the words "coral reefer" then the term isn't .... protected.

And someone else will use those words in association with e-cigs, hookahs, etc. etc.
Image
"There are no stupid questions. But there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots."
BNCRITTERS.COM | TWITTER | FACEBOOK | SURF SHOP |

lime rickie
God's Own Drunk
Posts: 22741
Joined: December 18, 2008 12:19 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: Bama Breeze
Number of Concerts: 11
Favorite Boat Drink: lime rickey

Re: Wow.

Post by lime rickie »

surfpirate wrote:If Margaritaville doesn't file this type of trademark protection for the words "coral reefer" then the term isn't .... protected.

And someone else will use those words in association with e-cigs, hookahs, etc. etc.
Exactly.
You only have two options - havin' fun or freakin' out...

Image

Tiki Torches
At the Bama Breeze
Posts: 4374
Joined: October 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by Tiki Torches »

Sounds like it won't fly unless it's meant specifically for marijuana use. That may work if he targets markets where it's legal and/or decriminalized. To me, the term "Coral Reefer" was never ambiguous as it's never been a secret that it was a direct reference to weed. While Buffett may not be as outspoken about it as Willie, as recently as just a few years ago he openly admitted in a Rolling Stone interview that he still likes to smoke marijuana on occasion. It's also something he's never shied away from in concert or in his songs. While some may prefer a toned down, palatable to the masses version of Buffett, I never have. I'm not sure about now but I'd say a large majority of his original following from the 70's were unadulterated stoners and certainly not a "subset" of his audience. Then again, that was back when he had more of a cult/underground following.

FinsUp6835
I Love the Now!
Posts: 1602
Joined: March 22, 2012 6:13 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: LivingstonsGone2TX MeetMeinMemphis Winoandiknow CowboyIntheJungle
Number of Concerts: 50
Favorite Boat Drink: Ice Cold Loaded Landshark

Re: Wow.

Post by FinsUp6835 »

Tiki Torches wrote:. I'm not sure about now but I'd say a large majority of his original following from the 70's were unadulterated stoners and certainly not a "subset" of his audience. Then again, that was back when he had more of a cult/underground following.
I'm only 30 yeArs old and I'd like to think I'm still pArt of the cult/underground following. Even with all the business, commercialism - jimmy is still the tequila drinking pot smoking folk singer. I know I'm a minority these days but no one writes a song better than JB. I wish at times he knew how much he is worth, in a songwriting sense. He is one of the best American song writers of our time. My wife alwAys tells me I shoulda been in the 70s.
"Tragedies very often become comedies, and they better become comedies real fast or else you're in a lot of trouble..." - Jimmy, 1978.

Tiki Torches
At the Bama Breeze
Posts: 4374
Joined: October 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by Tiki Torches »

FinsUp6835 wrote:I know I'm a minority these days but no one writes a song better than JB.
I can think of several right off the top of my head: Mike Cooley, Guy Clark, John Prine and James McMurtry. Buffett in his prime was worthy of mention as a songwriter but that ship sailed a very long time ago. He hasn't displayed that sort of prowess in quite some time now. He's become more of a cover artist, especially in concert which is sad to see. He started with a great deal of promise and was able to deliver on that for quite a while.

LIPH
Last Man Standing
Posts: 64569
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: my next beer, as long as it's not Blandshark

Re: Wow.

Post by LIPH »

FinsUp6835 wrote:Even with all the business, commercialism - jimmy is still the tequila drinking pot smoking folk singer.
In my opinion, that's not even close to being true. The Jimmy Buffett I became a fan of many years ago was a musician who later had some business interests on the side. The one out there now is a businessman who dabbles in music. It obviously worked out pretty well for his investment portfolio but, again, in my opinion, the music has suffered.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here

drunkpirate66
Party at the End of the World
Posts: 8880
Joined: May 13, 2005 12:25 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: Take Another Road
Number of Concerts: 67
Favorite Boat Drink: Beers.
Location: Chicken Box, Out On Nantucket Island

Re: Wow.

Post by drunkpirate66 »

I agree. He peaked with Cheeseburger in Paradise. All that time in the boardroom has sullied any chance of that level of musical brilliance ever surfacing from Jimmy's mind again. Will there ever be another Off To See The Lizard. Sadly, no. Bob Roberts . . . Desdemona Building a Rocket Ship, Mental Floss? As brilliant as Banana Wind was in its entirety that ship has sailed. But really, Earl's Dead is on par . . . . Perhaps there is hope.
the hit and run is as good as any religion around this time of year . . .

Tiki Torches
At the Bama Breeze
Posts: 4374
Joined: October 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by Tiki Torches »

Curious to know if the lynch mobs are now circling around Larry as they do when I make similar statements...

sabresparrothead
Southeast of disorder
Posts: 73
Joined: July 16, 2007 4:05 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by sabresparrothead »

lime rickie wrote:
surfpirate wrote:If Margaritaville doesn't file this type of trademark protection for the words "coral reefer" then the term isn't .... protected.

And someone else will use those words in association with e-cigs, hookahs, etc. etc.
Exactly.
Yep. I'd wager that it's solely to stop others from using the name, and not an indication that Margaritaville intends to sell any product of the sort.

surfpirate
Here We Are
Posts: 9701
Joined: April 27, 2001 8:00 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: African Friend
Number of Concerts: 98
Location: OBX (Oh how I wish ..... maybe next month)
Contact:

Re: Wow.

Post by surfpirate »

MARGARITAVILLE - CHEESEBURGER IN PARADISE - CARIBBEAN SOUL - LANDSHARK - FIVE O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE (with Alan Jackson)
Words or phrases that Jimmy coined (literally) in song lyrics. All eventually became associated with some sort of marketable product or business venture.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg, Jimmy has trademarked hundreds of phrases associated with his songs.

The cynic in me wonders if *corporate Jimmy* sometimes co-writes lyrics with *songwriter Jimmy* when he puts pen to paper and writes a song.

Why do I think that? Shown below is a short list of song lyrics (and more) that Jimmy has trademarked (SOURCE http://www.uspto.gov/sitesearch.jsp). Some are no longer active trademarks. Some have not (yet) been used in any commercial products or advertising. But many you will recognize as being associated beyond the original song lyric.

It goes well beyond his most famous "brand" word of just "MeglaritaMart" ... sorry ... I meant "Margaritaville". 8)

Jimmy is also extremely protective of his brand (as he should be). His lawsuit and eventual settlement with Chi Chi's Restaurants over the use of the word "Margaritaville" on their menus is considered to be a "textbook case" of artist rights to their image and is cited all over the web by law firms giving examples of trademark protection. (source: http://www.txpd.org/TPJ/18/song_same.htm)

But Jimmy also has attempted to capitalize on someone else's famous phrases. Remember Charlie Sheen's famous meltdown? Of course you do. Jimmy pulled a 180 degree turn of thought in that situation and MARGARITAVILLE ENTERPRISES, INC. decided to capitalize on Charlie Sheen by trademarking the name TIGER BLOOD as a Vodka Energy Drink.
source1: http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/18/jimmy-buf ... plication/
source2: http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie- ... 011-4?op=1

IT'S 5 O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE
PLAY IN PARADISE...NO PASSPORT REQUIRED
PLAY IN PARADISE
SHARKTOBERFEST
SON OF A SAILOR
LOST SHAKER OF SALT
MARGARITAVILLE
TEAWEST
MARGARITAVILLE HEMISPHERE DANCER PREMIUM
MARGARITAVILLE
PARTY IN PARADISE
MARGARITAVILLE PARROT
AIR MARGARITAVILLE
MARGARITAVILLE PARTY IN PARADISE PREMIUM
LUCKYRITA
LANDSHARK
FINSUP!
LOVE&LUCK
FINCITY
ONE PARTICULAR HARBOUR
MARGARITAVILLE HOLLYWOOD BEACH RESORT
MARGARILLAS
JIMMY BUFFETT'S POOL PARTY
LANDSHARK SURF SHACK
STATE O FMIND
PIRATE GOLD
LATITUDE ATTITUDE
PARROTHEAD
WHERE IS JOE MERCHANT?
JOE MERCHANT
FLORIDAYS
LANDSHARK LAGER
PHINS UP
FINS UP
FINS
IN SEARCH OF MARGARITAVILLE
A1A
LANDSHARK
LICENSE TO CHILL
CHANGES IN LATITUDES, CHANGES IN ATTITUDES
CHANGE YOUR LATITUDE
MARGARITAVILLE ESCAPE TO PARADISE COFFEE
SUN CARE OF PARADISE
MARGARITAVILLE NO SHIRT NO SHOES NO PROBLEM
MARGARITAVILLE SHADES OF THE TROPICS
MARGARITAVILLE POLARIZED TECHNOLOGY
24°81°
MARGARITAVILLE SPREAD
LONE PALM BEACH BAR
LIVE LIFE LIKE A SONG
MARGARITAVILLE CASINO
LANDSHARK BAR & GRILL
MARGARITAVILLE GRILLE
TEAWEST
LANDSHARK LANDING
MARGARITAVILLE BEACH HOTEL
MARGARITAVILLE PARADISE KEY TEAS
5 O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE HURRICANE BAR
LANDSHARK BAR&GRILL
TIGERBLOOD
JIMMYBUFFETT'S MARGARITAVILLE
RADIO MARGARITAVILLE
IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK SOMEWHERE
VOLCANO NACHOS
LANDSHARK
IT'S MY OWN DAMN FAULT
TIE ONE ON IN PARADISE
THE WEATHER IS HERE WISH YOU WERE BEAUTIFUL
SEARCHING FOR MY LOST SHAKER OF SALT
ON THE EDGE OF PARADISE
NO SHOES NO SHIRT NO PROBLEM
I AM THE WOMAN TO BLAME
THE BEST MARGARITAS COME FROM MARGARITAVILLE
MARGARITAVILLE ESCAPE TO PARADISE
FROZEN CONCOCTION MAKER
FCM
SOLES OF THE TROPICS
THE BEST MARGARITAS COME FROM MARGARITAVILLE IMPORTED TEQUILA
LONE PALM AIRPORT
LONE PALM ALE
MARGARITAVILLE SOLES OF THE TROPICS
ONE PARTICULAR HARBOUR
LAST MANGO
TROPICAL TANGERINE
ISLAND LIME
CALYPSO COCONUT
BOAT DRINK
LONE PALM LAGER
LONE PALM BEER
LONE PALM
THE PASSIONATE DIVARITA
THE DIVARITA
FRUITCAKES
LONEPALM
THE BEST MARGARITAS COME FROM MARGARITAVILLE IMPORTED TEQUILA
PARAKEET
JOLLYMON
LICENSE TO CHILL
ONE PARTICULAR LAGER
LONE PALM ALE
BOATS BEACHES BARS BALLADS
BOATS BEACHES BARS
PERFECT MARGARITA
MARGARITAVILLE
PARROTHEAD BEER
ONE PARTICULAR HARBOUR
JIMMY BUFFETT'S
PARADISE WITH A TWIST
LAST MANGO IN PARIS
MARGARITAVILLE
CHEESEBURGER IN PARADISE
NO PASSPORT REQUIRED
MARGARITAVILLESEAFOOD.COM
MAN DOES NOT LIVE BY CHEESEBURGER ALONE
LASTMANGOINPARIS
COCONUT TELEGRAPH
MARGARITAVICH
FROZEN CONCOCTION
FROZEN CONCOCTION THAT HELPS YOU HANG ON
BOOZE IN THE BLENDER
BAREFOOT CHILDREN IN THE SAND
BAREFOOT CHILDREN
A LOT TO DRINK ABOUT
SUMMERZCOOL
ISLANDLIME
LTC
HEMISPHERE DANCER PREMIUM
WASTIN' AWAY AGAIN IN MARGARITAVILLE
LOSTSHAKEROFSALT
MARGARITAVILLE ESCAPE TO PARADISE
OUT OF MANY ONE RUM
CARIBBEAN SOUL
WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE
CHANGE YOUR LATITUDE
ONE PARTICULAR HARBOUR
NEVER LEAVE YOUR WING MAN
CALYPSO COCONUT
ESCAPE YOUR WORLD, RELAX IN OURS
LATTITUNER
LATITUNER
THE DIVARITA
CHANGE YOUR LATITUDE
CHANGEYOURLATITUDE
LANDSHARK
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE FINNED
STAYCATION
LTC LICENSE TO CHILL
BLEW OUT MY FLIP FLOP
MARGARITAVILLE OUTER BANKS BANK
MARGARITAVILLE FINANCE COMPANY
MARGARITAVILLE BANK
GROWING OLDER, NOT UP
IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE LATITUDE ADJUSTMENT
LANDSHARK STADIUM
RHYTHM WITH REASON
PLUM CRAZY SHRIMP
ST. SOMEWHERE
ISLAND LIME
HONOLULU SURFING MUSEUM
BAMABREEZE
•HEMISPHEREDANCER••PREMIUM•
HONOLULUSURFINGMUSEUM
KONO EQUIPMENT AND DISTRIBUTION
MARGARITAVILLE
MARGARITAVILLE PASSPORT STATION
CORAL REEF
PALM ISLAND
PARADICEKEY
MARGARITAVILLE BREADED CALAMARI RINGS
SIX 6 STRING
6 STRING
HAVANADAY DREAMIN
JIMMY BUFFETT'S AT THE BEACHCOMBER
MARGARITAVILLE TORTILLA CHIPS
MARGARITAVILLE DIP
MARGARITAVILLE HUMMUS
MARGARITAVILLE GUACAMOLE
FROZEN CONCOCTION
MARGARITAVILLE CARGO
FROZEN CONCOCTIONS, THAT HELP ME HANG ON
PARADISE PASSION FRUIT
FLORIDAYS
JIMMY BUFFETT'S MARGARITAVILLE SMUGGLER'S HOLD
SMUGGLER'S HOLD
ONLY GIRL IN TOWN
THE WOMAN TO BLAME
PORT OF INDECISION
MUSHMON!
MVILLE
LET THE FIN BEGIN
MARGARITAVILLE SPREAD
CARIBBEAN SOLE
MARGARITAVILLE BREADED CALAMARI RINGS
MARGARITAVILLE BREADED CALAMARI STRIPS
MARGARITAVILLE BREADED CALAMARI
MARGARITAVILLE CALAMARI
MARGARITAVILLE CRABCAKES
MARGARITAVILLE CRAB
MARGARITAVILLE SALSA
RASTASAFARI
BAMABREEZE
BAMABREEZE TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
RADIOMARGARITAVILLE
12-VOLTBAR
WHO'S TO BLAME
INCOMMUNICADO
JIMMY'S JAMMIN' JAMBALAYA
HAVANAS AND BANANAS
LAST MANGO IN PARIS
JOLLYMON
KEY WEST MARGARITAVILLE MIX
CHEESEBURGERINPARADISE
AIR MARGARITAVILLE
PARROTHEAD RADIO
PARAKEET
PARROTHEAD
MARGARITAVILLE
PARROTHEAD CLUB
Image
"There are no stupid questions. But there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots."
BNCRITTERS.COM | TWITTER | FACEBOOK | SURF SHOP |

Tiki Torches
At the Bama Breeze
Posts: 4374
Joined: October 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by Tiki Torches »

There's probably more but Buffett didn't "coin" "landshark". It first appeared as a skit on Saturday Night Live in 1975, at least to the best of my knowledge. Buffett definitely wasn't the first to come up with it. While he has every right to legally protect some of the phrases he is responsible for (such as "Margaritaville"), the fact that he would go to such lengths to legally trademark all of the ones listed above makes my stomach turn. He's never made any secret of the fact that he's more of an entertainer and a businessman than a musician but I believe he crossed a line here. The amount of greed on display is downright disgusting and sickening.

SunLover
Party at the End of the World
Posts: 8917
Joined: January 24, 2004 10:49 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: The next show I capture
Number of Concerts: 0
Contact:

Re: Wow.

Post by SunLover »

surfpirate wrote:...Shown below is a short list of song lyrics (and more) that Jimmy has trademarked (SOURCE http://www.uspto.gov/sitesearch.jsp). Some are no longer active trademarks. Some have not (yet) been used in any commercial products or advertising. But many you will recognize as being associated beyond the original song lyric...
We're gonna have to enter after each song in the next setlist.

Well, each song that's actually a Buffett song and not a cover song...

palmettopirate
I gotta go where it's warm
Posts: 666
Joined: May 18, 2005 11:06 am
Favorite Buffett Song: Coast of Carolina
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: sweet tea
Location: Charleston SC

Re: Wow.

Post by palmettopirate »

I couldn't care less about this and I don't know a thing about trademark law some maybe someone can explain. How does one take a couple common words and trademark it? It's like I could trademark the phrase "baseball bat" and nobody could touch it. BTW, the first time I heard landshark was in a the movie K9 with James Belushi when he referred to a German shepherd as a landshark. Margaritaville is a different story as it is an invented word. Just curious.
Every day you wake up you get another chance to do it right.

palmettopirate
I gotta go where it's warm
Posts: 666
Joined: May 18, 2005 11:06 am
Favorite Buffett Song: Coast of Carolina
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: sweet tea
Location: Charleston SC

Re: Wow.

Post by palmettopirate »

I couldn't care less about this and I don't know a thing about trademark law some maybe someone can explain. How does one take a couple common words and trademark it? It's like I could trademark the phrase "baseball bat" and nobody could touch it. BTW, the first time I heard landshark was in a the movie K9 with James Belushi when he referred to a German shepherd as a landshark. Margaritaville is a different story as it is an invented word. Just curious.
Every day you wake up you get another chance to do it right.

Tiki Torches
At the Bama Breeze
Posts: 4374
Joined: October 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Re: Wow.

Post by Tiki Torches »

"Landshark" is also an "invented word", one Buffett himself didn't come up with. It's obvious, especially if you listen to the banter on You Had To Be There that he was a huge Saturday Night Live fan and that in all likelihood his "sharks that can swim on land" line from "Fins" was inspired by the original SNL skit. There's a brief history of the skit here.

palmettopirate
I gotta go where it's warm
Posts: 666
Joined: May 18, 2005 11:06 am
Favorite Buffett Song: Coast of Carolina
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: sweet tea
Location: Charleston SC

Re: Wow.

Post by palmettopirate »

Thx for the link.
Every day you wake up you get another chance to do it right.

Locked