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Their Facebook page says that people who bought lawn tickets are eligible to receive tickets to another show due to the inconvenience.
Lawn ticket purchasers for the Saturday, June 29 show will be contacted directly via email, where they will receive information on how to redeem a complimentary lawn ticket for each lawn ticket purchased for Jimmy Buffett and the Coral Reefer Band, to any available show at FirstMerit Bank Pavilion, First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre, or Alpine Valley. The offer is based on availability and will be subject to expiration, so participants are encouraged to respond quickly for best selection, once they receive the email from Live Nation.
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looking at this photo , I thought it was a construction site or maybe a football field :(
its a disgrace to even call this area "lawn seats" :( :-?
urlcenter wrote:Okay here is a photo of the Chicago venue's lawn the after the Buffett show:

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This concert disaster made the local Chicago TV News:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/video/90489 ... -mud-bath/

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And so on and so on.......

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/22737 ... tt-concert
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/- ... -76526404/


How many missing "t"s are strewn throughout all of these lack-luster news articles. Not only has Chicago (Sun Times) replaced it's photographers with iPhone-wielding reporters, but it appears the editors have been cast out as well..... Sigh. :x

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Concert goer suffers serious foot injury on lawn at Chicago show:

http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid ... EluzMvjZDA

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After reading all the bad reviews, I am soooo glad my wife, friends and I opted to stay at home and listen to the show in my backyard having our own party. There was no way I was going to spend that kind of money not to be able to tailgate and possibly not be able to see nor enjoy the show. People bashed me and said some bad stuff when I said that there was nowhere to tailgate, tents were not allowed, and the sightline of the lawn was the worst ever, but people said that it was a great and novel idea to have it by the lake with the city in the background. For all of us in Chicago we are pretty much screwed, Toyota had a good venue, nice staff but bad parking and the electrical issue. Tinley, well, Tinley is Tinley(we all know the list of good and a lot bad), Northerly Isl, isn't a great spot for anything, tailgating, concert enjoyment, etc... Unfortunatelly, I think that Alpine might have to become my concert destination in the future unless they figure something out. It sucks that those that went couldn't enjoy themselves.
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Re: Chicago show venue failures a breakdown

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urlcenter wrote:Concert goer suffers serious foot injury on lawn at Chicago show:

http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid ... EluzMvjZDA
Your stirring of this pot and kindling this fire is cracking me up! Just curious why you have such vested interest in it if you weren't there? And I do understand that it could just be as simple as you find it compelling. Or are you John Bulldog Drummond?

It is nice of you to be packaging it nicely for the rest of us to read, though!

A friend of mine went, sat in the lawn, and they had a good time. It wasn't ideal by any means... she was finally able to get her legs, feet, and flip flops clean of the mud, and they couldn't see the stage. But she sent a picture of them with the lake behind them, and they danced and sang along the entire show, and lived to talk about it. She said she'd never go back.

As I grow older but not up, I have less desire for chaos and mayhem, and I planned to avoid this one all along. Last week as it was getting close and excitement was building, and my friend was texting to ask if I changed my mind twice a day, I was reconsidering. But the person posted the youtube video last week of the lawn, and it was game over for me. If tickets were half the cost, maybe, but no way in heck at the prices they were. Turned out to be a good decision.

I do give Jimmy credit for trying something new... the idea of the lake and the skyline are highly appealing, but not for everyone. It may have been better if it hadn't rained so much, and there's nothing you can do about that. And the changed parking prices s***, period, but again, that's the city opening their pockets, not Jimmy.

And I do feel bad for everyone who had BAD experiences, including nvrmnd, the person with the injured foot, and others. It's a shame when stuff like that happens and has to be endured for any event.
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Tiki Bar wrote:
urlcenter wrote:Concert goer suffers serious foot injury on lawn at Chicago show:

http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid ... EluzMvjZDA
Your stirring of this pot and kindling this fire is cracking me up! Just curious why you have such vested interest in it if you weren't there? And I do understand that it could just be as simple as you find it compelling. Or are you John Bulldog Drummond?

It is nice of you to be packaging it nicely for the rest of us to read, though!

A friend of mine went, sat in the lawn, and they had a good time. It wasn't ideal by any means... she was finally able to get her legs, feet, and flip flops clean of the mud, and they couldn't see the stage. But she sent a picture of them with the lake behind them, and they danced and sang along the entire show, and lived to talk about it. She said she'd never go back.

As I grow older but not up, I have less desire for chaos and mayhem, and I planned to avoid this one all along. Last week as it was getting close and excitement was building, and my friend was texting to ask if I changed my mind twice a day, I was reconsidering. But the person posted the youtube video last week of the lawn, and it was game over for me. If tickets were half the cost, maybe, but no way in heck at the prices they were. Turned out to be a good decision.

I do give Jimmy credit for trying something new... the idea of the lake and the skyline are highly appealing, but not for everyone. It may have been better if it hadn't rained so much, and there's nothing you can do about that. And the changed parking prices s***, period, but again, that's the city opening their pockets, not Jimmy.

And I do feel bad for everyone who had BAD experiences, including nvrmnd, the person with the injured foot, and others. It's a shame when stuff like that happens and has to be endured for any event.
I am not stirring the pot at all I just don't like to see Parrotheads getting there expensive concert experiences ruined by venues that don't seem to care. I realize that not everyone had a bad time some actually enjoyed themselves, my feeling is that if I or anyone else pay hard earned money to see an artist live there should as few problems as possible for the paying customers. This Chicago show was clearly and exception to the rule for Buffett shows and the failures need to be highlighted and discussed so they hopefully will not happen again.

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Tiki Bar wrote:
urlcenter wrote:Concert goer suffers serious foot injury on lawn at Chicago show:

http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid ... EluzMvjZDA
Your stirring of this pot and kindling this fire is cracking me up! Just curious why you have such vested interest in it if you weren't there? And I do understand that it could just be as simple as you find it compelling. Or are you John Bulldog Drummond?

It is nice of you to be packaging it nicely for the rest of us to read, though!

A friend of mine went, sat in the lawn, and they had a good time. It wasn't ideal by any means... she was finally able to get her legs, feet, and flip flops clean of the mud, and they couldn't see the stage. But she sent a picture of them with the lake behind them, and they danced and sang along the entire show, and lived to talk about it. She said she'd never go back.

As I grow older but not up, I have less desire for chaos and mayhem, and I planned to avoid this one all along. Last week as it was getting close and excitement was building, and my friend was texting to ask if I changed my mind twice a day, I was reconsidering. But the person posted the youtube video last week of the lawn, and it was game over for me. If tickets were half the cost, maybe, but no way in heck at the prices they were. Turned out to be a good decision.

I do give Jimmy credit for trying something new... the idea of the lake and the skyline are highly appealing, but not for everyone. It may have been better if it hadn't rained so much, and there's nothing you can do about that. And the changed parking prices s***, period, but again, that's the city opening their pockets, not Jimmy.

And I do feel bad for everyone who had BAD experiences, including nvrmnd, the person with the injured foot, and others. It's a shame when stuff like that happens and has to be endured for any event.


Tiki Bar,

Having been at the concert and the pre-concert tailgating, I am grateful to Urlcenter, Nvrmnd17 and others who have kept this issue alive here and in the Chicago media. The prices that concertgoers pay for tickets today for virtually any major act are not cheap. Ticketmaster and Live Nation have been allowed to conspire to continue to control this market and, in my mind, the quality of the venues and the experience. Prices keep rising but, as clearly shown with the new Northerly Island venue, the experience has not improved and, in fact, has deteriorated.

The venue was new and probably subject to growing pains. Live Nation is not new to all of this. The facility was poorly designed and cheaply constructed. I would guess that the "temporary" feel to the stage and reserved seating and the lack of a lawn area that approximates lawns at venues such as Deer Creek, Tinley Park, Alpine Valley and others (an area with sufficient elevation for decent drainage and acceptable sight lines) may be restricted by Park District rules. The lack of information on tailgating restrictions, seemingly arbitrary rules (no canopies) and the enforcement of those rules and the last minute changes to the parking fees, were unfair to the fans who paid lots of money only to be hassled or disappointed. Many us of feel like we were purposely lied to by Live Nation or information was purposely vague. And it wasn't for a lack trying to secure correct information well ahead of time. Bill Brehm, president of the Chicago Parrotheads Club, tried repeated for months to pin-down details on the venue and tailgating. The information he received was either incorrect, incomplete or downright wrong.

I will admit that I do have a dog in this fight. My dog is to keep Jimmy from playing this facility in the future should it remain in its present configuration. The "new" Northerly Island facility was done "on the cheap" and with no regard for the comfort or enjoyment of the fans who pay ever-increasing prices to see a concert. Live Nation manages enough venues and promotes enough concerts to be fully aware of what it takes to build and maintain a first-class theater. It is an embarrassment to the concertgoers of Chicago and it insults the intelligence of those same people. If there are really addtional phases to this facility, let Live Nation and the Park District unveil them now. If they only include a diving reef in Lake Michigan and a bird sanctuary, the concertgoers are being duped. To say I am suspicious of Live Nation's and the Chicago Park District's intentions for Northerly Island is being generous to them. Reactions from the attendees of the upcoming Phish concerts at the venue will be interesting. Although, after at least on Phish die-hard called Parrotheads "whiney people" on Facebook, maybe their idea of a good venue and experience may be drastically different from the expectations of the majority of Parrotheads. Of course, this person was very proud to admit he stood on the lawn at Deer Creek during a lightning storm several years ago........

I don't mind avoiding a particular venue because it is not an enjoyable place to see a show. But I would like to know the whole truth ahead of time so I can make an informed decision before spending my money. My experience is that Live Nation did an extremely poor job of building and managing Northerly Island and purposely misinformed concertgoers as to the facts just so they could sell more tickets and enrich themselves.
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Just amazing complaints about the 6/29 Buffett show are still being posted over on Yelp even three days later, simply amazing

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Supposedly this venue was only suppose to be TEMPORARY. It was to be only open a few years til they made the whole "island" a park. I am sure old man Daley is still rolling over in his grave for the s*** move his son Richie made tearing up the runway.
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urlcenter wrote:Just amazing complaints about the 6/29 Buffett show are still being posted over on Yelp even three days later, simply amazing
Not really. People will probably be griping about it for a few weeks.

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This is fun stuff to read. Just been waiting. Seems as though complaints are justified and valid. And then there are the blindly devoted who will always jump in line for the kool aid. Well no matter who is responsible you know where the buck stops, that is if you know anything about business. I wasn't there but with my luck I probably would be staring a law suit in the face for destruction of property (the lawn).
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Nighthawk wrote:Supposedly this venue was only suppose to be TEMPORARY. It was to be only open a few years til they made the whole "island" a park. I am sure old man Daley is still rolling over in his grave for the s*** move his son Richie made tearing up the runway.
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SMLCHNG wrote:
urlcenter wrote:Just amazing complaints about the 6/29 Buffett show are still being posted over on Yelp even three days later, simply amazing
Not really. People will probably be griping about it for a few weeks.
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I know the venue can not control the weather (the mud issue)...but I do remember when this show was first announced that there were many on this board familar with the venue who questioned the venue choice and/or warned us to avoid the show because of many of the issues people are now complaining about. Based on this "local" knowledge I declined to attend the show even though it was my only chance to see JB this year.

I also remember a number of people saying who cares about the potential problems....it's JB on an island in Lake Michigan and I'm going. I hope those people are not now the ones complaining.

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STL Parrot wrote:I know the venue can not control the weather (the mud issue)...but I do remember when this show was first announced that there were many on this board familar with the venue who questioned the venue choice and/or warned us to avoid the show because of many of the issues people are now complaining about. Based on this "local" knowledge I declined to attend the show even though it was my only chance to see JB this year.

I also remember a number of people saying who cares about the potential problems....it's JB on an island in Lake Michigan and I'm going. I hope those people are not now the ones complaining.
You can argue about the venue issues until the cows come home (which is kinda what looked like happened to part of the lawn).........still no excuse for the parking I$$ues phans had to go through!
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I've been hearing a lot of people who didn't attend saying, "It was just a little mud, it couldn't have been that bad. You should have sucked it up and had a good time." This venue sucked so badly that it was next to impossible to have a good time.

urlcenter wrote:The other major issue with the lawn was that unlike other venues it was not a lawn with a slope so people on the lawn could see the show from there. There is almost no elevation to the lawn at this venue which made it next to impossible to see the show from the lawn and this coupled with the lawn conditions lead to a large number of walk outs very early in the show which is almost unheard of at Jimmy's shows.
To me, this was a much larger issue than the mud. At other venues I've been too with a lawn, even from far away you can see that there is in fact a concert happening and there are people on stage playing instruments. In the two hours that I stayed Saturday night, I never was able to see a single person on stage.

urlcenter wrote:Another complaint coming from this show was that the venue sound system was week and not balanced correctly making the show hard to hear on enjoy unless you were close to the stage.
This was mostly a function of the high winds on the lakefront. Other than that, the venue was using a JBL Vertec array, which are the same brand/line of speakers Jimmy has been using for quite a while. They don't sound good for live music.

chippewa wrote:After all, he pulled out of Toyota Park after they lost power at the end of his show.
Everybody assumes the loss of power to the audio/video systems at Toyota in 2011 is the reason Buffett hasn't been back there, but we never officially have learned a reason, nor have we ever found out where the point of failure occurred. Just because the loss of power occurred at Toyota Park doesn't mean it was the fault of Toyota Park.

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STL Parrot wrote:I also remember a number of people saying who cares about the potential problems....it's JB on an island in Lake Michigan and I'm going. I hope those people are not now the ones complaining.
Weren't most of the pre-concert complaints stuff like, "it's Chicago, we're going to get mugged" and "are we sure there's going to be tailgating there?" Because those are the two main points I remember reading.

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boatdrinks84 wrote:
STL Parrot wrote:I also remember a number of people saying who cares about the potential problems....it's JB on an island in Lake Michigan and I'm going. I hope those people are not now the ones complaining.
Weren't most of the pre-concert complaints stuff like, "it's Chicago, we're going to get mugged" and "are we sure there's going to be tailgating there?" Because those are the two main points I remember reading.
Yeah there were some comments along those lines but STL Parrot is also correct about the other comments

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